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		<title>By: Two Treasures for Valentine&#8217;s Day &#124; Idiotprogrammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two Treasures for Valentine&#8217;s Day &#124; Idiotprogrammer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Lady Jane</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting views....and maybe i am missing the mark here, that does happen sometimes......but beauty is not only beheld with the eye, but with the heart as well, at least not for me....it&#039;s just not all about looks....in my 30&#039;s i was much more physically appealing, men were very attracted to me, today at 52 (in june) i am less attractive as i am overweight, but i find that people actually &#039;see&#039; me now...men aren&#039;t driven by &#039;i want to stick it in you&#039; now, and they seem to enjoy me more as a &#039;person&#039;, my sense of humor, take on things, etc....and the same for the ladies, they see me less as a &#039;threat&#039;....so being less physically attractive has offered me some fine things, permitting me to be more fully &#039;me&#039;...and a welcome &#039;safety zone&#039;,not having to fight off unwanted advances and opening the door to allowing women to see me in a more friendly light....it&#039;s quite nice, this extra fat, except to the eye of most men, and in manys ways has enhanced my true beauty....

Lady Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting views&#8230;.and maybe i am missing the mark here, that does happen sometimes&#8230;&#8230;but beauty is not only beheld with the eye, but with the heart as well, at least not for me&#8230;.it&#8217;s just not all about looks&#8230;.in my 30&#8217;s i was much more physically appealing, men were very attracted to me, today at 52 (in june) i am less attractive as i am overweight, but i find that people actually &#8217;see&#8217; me now&#8230;men aren&#8217;t driven by &#8216;i want to stick it in you&#8217; now, and they seem to enjoy me more as a &#8216;person&#8217;, my sense of humor, take on things, etc&#8230;.and the same for the ladies, they see me less as a &#8216;threat&#8217;&#8230;.so being less physically attractive has offered me some fine things, permitting me to be more fully &#8216;me&#8217;&#8230;and a welcome &#8217;safety zone&#8217;,not having to fight off unwanted advances and opening the door to allowing women to see me in a more friendly light&#8230;.it&#8217;s quite nice, this extra fat, except to the eye of most men, and in manys ways has enhanced my true beauty&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lady Jane</p>
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		<title>By: srp</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the question, do we need beauty to survive is an interesting one, but the more interesting question to me has always been can there exist a standard of beauty that is agreed upon by all. I look at cover models or the vicki&#039;s secret catalogue and i can say, &quot;these girls are not offensive; they are somewhat pleasing to the eye...&quot; but &quot;beautiful?&quot; no... i wouldn&#039;t go that far. Now, ask me if Meryl Streep is beautiful i would say Yes, absolutely. But what is conventionally pleasing and ordinary, say satisfying and essentially NOT offensive is NOT necessarily beautiful. You see the difference.  Jennifer Love Hewitt or even Jennifer Aniston are not, in my opinion, beautiful. They both simply do not offend the most people. They are the least offensive and are in this way, rather milquetoast - rather dull. They are &quot;okay&quot; but neither is particularly memorable. Kind of like vanilla - anything vanilla, it&#039;s rather bland but inoffensive.

True beauty, in my view, and my view i say is simply my opinion, my ow3n observation, but true beauty is always a little &quot;off&quot; somehow. There is a feature that is not &quot;quite right&quot; and so very often, true beauty will not appeal to the masses the way that conventionally pretty does (read: jennifer aniston). 

Julianne Moore is, in my view, truly beautiful, as is Kate Winslet, but neither is really &quot;big time&quot; in that way, and i think that is because both are slightly different - not mainstream enough. The same is true of most &quot;beautiful&quot; men - ie, brad pitt. he&#039;s fine, i see it, but not my cup of fur, you know what i mean? I&#039;d rather see Chris Cooper or  even Philip Seymour HOffman or Anthony Hopkins any day because they have true character and to me, that is part of what defines beauty -- character, not these blank and expressionless clones that are slammed on magazine covers month after month offering up the same bland and boring looks and the same flat abs (read: no curves, not womanly or feminine - yuk! i&#039;d rather a woman with some curves, frankly... ).

Look at these same women ten years ago even; they all weighted at least ten to twenty pounds more than they do today, and that&#039;s pretty sad. since when did emaciated equal attractive? where was i on that day? i mean, i&#039;ve been very thin most of my adult life and FINALLY after YEARS of being really sick and UNDER weight by a lot, i&#039;m finally a normal wieght and have curves, tits and hips, etc, and thank god! i&#039;m so grateful for it, yet when i go into the Gap i feel enormous, like i should be ashamed to be a size six, or god help me, if i want my jheans baggy, and i DO, a size 8 (horrors!). I also have a bosom to match, and that much seems to be widely accepted, yet mine are real, not fake. If i had stayed sick and a size 2, as i was, i&#039;d need implants to look like this -- rare is the woman who looks like that and has a thirty-six C that is natural.... you get the point.

So thank god for Julianne Moore who isn&#039;t afraid to show her beauifula nd womanly body nude in films such as The End oft he Affair - she&#039;s an inspiration. I saw her when i was going through cancer and was a tiny little thing and all i could hope was that &quot;one day&quot; when i &quot;grew up&quot; and became a real woman, i used to joke, when i wasn&#039;t so sick anymorek, i wanted to be her size (she&#039;s about an 8), and have curves and boobs and an ass to match, all toned, yes, but never ever will i want to look like Jennifer Aniston or Paris Hilton, who, imagine when she&#039;s fifty what she&#039;ll look like? LIke a piece of old mercedes benz leather from all the fake tanning.

Ugh.

I&#039;ll keep my lilywhite skin, my tits, my hips, my full size 6, my eight, my weight, my saturday date and a man who wants something to hold onto when he makes love and doesn&#039;t want to come away with bruises from some woman&#039;s pelvic bone. Owww!

sorry to drone on... and this was only human beauty....

s.r.p.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the question, do we need beauty to survive is an interesting one, but the more interesting question to me has always been can there exist a standard of beauty that is agreed upon by all. I look at cover models or the vicki&#8217;s secret catalogue and i can say, &#8220;these girls are not offensive; they are somewhat pleasing to the eye&#8230;&#8221; but &#8220;beautiful?&#8221; no&#8230; i wouldn&#8217;t go that far. Now, ask me if Meryl Streep is beautiful i would say Yes, absolutely. But what is conventionally pleasing and ordinary, say satisfying and essentially NOT offensive is NOT necessarily beautiful. You see the difference.  Jennifer Love Hewitt or even Jennifer Aniston are not, in my opinion, beautiful. They both simply do not offend the most people. They are the least offensive and are in this way, rather milquetoast &#8211; rather dull. They are &#8220;okay&#8221; but neither is particularly memorable. Kind of like vanilla &#8211; anything vanilla, it&#8217;s rather bland but inoffensive.</p>
<p>True beauty, in my view, and my view i say is simply my opinion, my ow3n observation, but true beauty is always a little &#8220;off&#8221; somehow. There is a feature that is not &#8220;quite right&#8221; and so very often, true beauty will not appeal to the masses the way that conventionally pretty does (read: jennifer aniston). </p>
<p>Julianne Moore is, in my view, truly beautiful, as is Kate Winslet, but neither is really &#8220;big time&#8221; in that way, and i think that is because both are slightly different &#8211; not mainstream enough. The same is true of most &#8220;beautiful&#8221; men &#8211; ie, brad pitt. he&#8217;s fine, i see it, but not my cup of fur, you know what i mean? I&#8217;d rather see Chris Cooper or  even Philip Seymour HOffman or Anthony Hopkins any day because they have true character and to me, that is part of what defines beauty &#8212; character, not these blank and expressionless clones that are slammed on magazine covers month after month offering up the same bland and boring looks and the same flat abs (read: no curves, not womanly or feminine &#8211; yuk! i&#8217;d rather a woman with some curves, frankly&#8230; ).</p>
<p>Look at these same women ten years ago even; they all weighted at least ten to twenty pounds more than they do today, and that&#8217;s pretty sad. since when did emaciated equal attractive? where was i on that day? i mean, i&#8217;ve been very thin most of my adult life and FINALLY after YEARS of being really sick and UNDER weight by a lot, i&#8217;m finally a normal wieght and have curves, tits and hips, etc, and thank god! i&#8217;m so grateful for it, yet when i go into the Gap i feel enormous, like i should be ashamed to be a size six, or god help me, if i want my jheans baggy, and i DO, a size 8 (horrors!). I also have a bosom to match, and that much seems to be widely accepted, yet mine are real, not fake. If i had stayed sick and a size 2, as i was, i&#8217;d need implants to look like this &#8212; rare is the woman who looks like that and has a thirty-six C that is natural&#8230;. you get the point.</p>
<p>So thank god for Julianne Moore who isn&#8217;t afraid to show her beauifula nd womanly body nude in films such as The End oft he Affair &#8211; she&#8217;s an inspiration. I saw her when i was going through cancer and was a tiny little thing and all i could hope was that &#8220;one day&#8221; when i &#8220;grew up&#8221; and became a real woman, i used to joke, when i wasn&#8217;t so sick anymorek, i wanted to be her size (she&#8217;s about an 8), and have curves and boobs and an ass to match, all toned, yes, but never ever will i want to look like Jennifer Aniston or Paris Hilton, who, imagine when she&#8217;s fifty what she&#8217;ll look like? LIke a piece of old mercedes benz leather from all the fake tanning.</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep my lilywhite skin, my tits, my hips, my full size 6, my eight, my weight, my saturday date and a man who wants something to hold onto when he makes love and doesn&#8217;t want to come away with bruises from some woman&#8217;s pelvic bone. Owww!</p>
<p>sorry to drone on&#8230; and this was only human beauty&#8230;.</p>
<p>s.r.p.</p>
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